Daniel: June 2, 2020, 2:04am
When we supplement Large Intestine and dry the dampness on BOTH the inside and the outside, where does the
water go? Does it drain through urination, leave through sweating, ‘evaporate’ out the orifices? Or does it just
condense into even denser dampness? It is a substance. It has to go somewhere. Something has to happen to it.
Where does it go? What happens to it?
KristinWisgirda: June 2, 2020, 12:54pm
I notice many patients need to urinate after LI+, even if they went before getting on the table. Toby has mentioned
needing to be cautious with drying strong patients because their bodies respond to treatment with such vigor they
might need to have an urgent need to urinate when they are on the table. In such cases, he typically will just do a
unilateral treatment, rather than combining LI or St with SI.
I can’t recall Toby mentioning other ways of discharging damp besides urine. I can imagine that sweat, vomit, and
bowel movements could all be possible avenues as well.
What are other people’s experiences?
Sharon W teaches that pathological fluids can’t perform physiological functions. Rather correcting the mechanism
means that new fluids coming into the body will be processed better and be less likely to accumulate as
damp/phlegm. This is not Sa’am but it makes sense to me.
Daniel: June 2, 2020, 2:40pm
KristinWisgirda:
In such cases, he typically will just do a unilateral treatment,
hmmm . . . . does ”such cases” and “typically” mean that unilateral is really not that typical and bilateral treatments
are ‘more typical”?
Daniel: June 2, 2020, 2:41pm
23/01/2024, 12:10What Happens to the Water When We Double Dry? – Sa’am Clinical Questions – Qiological Community
https://forum.qiological.com/t/what-happens-to-the-water-when-we-double-dry/1069/print2/2
KristinWisgirda:
This is not Sa’am but it makes sense to me.
yes, totally makes sense to me too!
KristinWisgirda: June 2, 2020, 3:31pm
My understanding is that these experiences showed Toby that strong constitution patients benefit more from
unilateral treatments, “typically”. One exception I can think of is Toby’s myasthenia gravis patient who is K excess
poster boy. T did treat St+ bilaterally when he was having bad flares during damp weather. But this same patient
could have an urgent need to urinate while he was on the table with drying treatments so needed to be watched
closely.
Last I heard, T was saying that he treats one side at least 50% of the time.
Daniel: June 3, 2020, 2:13am
oh – interesting – I thought the one-side treatment was much more ‘the rule’ here with two sided being quite
exceptional. Maybe that is just for the first year or two of really learning the system? This is really news to me . . .
What are people generally doing here – assuming many of us are now a good year or more into Sa’Am practice . . .
are people mostly doing unilateral treatments still or are people doing a lot of bilateral treatments and if so, are the
bilateral treatments mainly the same treatment on both sides?
KristinWisgirda: June 3, 2020, 1:26pm
Treating one side most of the time is the recommendation for learning Sa’am. Everybody on this forum is still in
kindergarten.
Toby has almost 2 decades on us, so his practice is exceptional.