I’ve learned from various sources that in general, we shouldn’t supplement SI from cycle day 3 to the end of period, so we don’t over-scatter the kidney energy, which needs to consolidate at the end of menses.
- is this correct thinking? (in general)
- If someone has VERY heavy periods and hence heavy blood loss, would it be appropriate to do LV+/SI+ on day 3 or towards end of the period? Or is this treatment best done after all flow has ended?
thanks for any clarity and refinement.
Daniel Replied
Just my thoughts here . . . great question. I did not attend Toby’s recent class on Sa’Am and Gynecology . . someone who did may want to comment . . or you could buy the class and watch. I think in general, it all depends on the ‘severity’ of a case. Sometimes, in Sa’Am we do something that might seem in the meta-sense ‘counter-intuitive’ to address a severely presenting symptom . . for example, Kristin recently recounted a case from Toby’s clinic where all of the overall signs pointed to dryness . . . the patient’s morphology was super thin, no flesh, very dry skin . . even I think an ‘industrious’ disposition . . . so many signs and symptoms pointing to LI XS . . . and YET . . . the patient, arising out of cancer treatment I believe . . had gums that were ‘falling apart’ and pustulent . . . and for a treatment or two, Sa’Am LI supplementation was given to rectify this extreme symtpom and certainly once rectified, the patient was then given Spleen supplementing treatments. You may have a case that is so intense in its blood stasis . . . that even if the patient has some orientation towards Kidney deficiency, you may need to do SI + treatment anyway . . certainly could be followed with Ki + treatment once the stasis was cleared. On the other hand, if the patient presents with such powerful Kidney XS (hyper symmetrical, early menarche, super fertile, and a lot of blood stasis) . . . I don’t think I would even worry about an SI+ treatment at any time in her cycle.
cassiopeia
thanks @Daniel, your thoughts make sense and is also how I would operate.
if @Tobydaly1 has an “official” stance from this Saam lineage regarding using SI+ at the end of the cycle (whether in combo with another channel, or alone), I would appreciate hearing.
George_mandler replied
I generally do no supplement SI+ much in the ovulatory phase. However if someone has a pale tongue and other signs fit I have certainly supplemented SI+ combined with LR+.
If there is menorrhagia which a KD+ supplementation has helped I would be extra cautious even with a pale tongue. (and use herbs post menstruation).
I am sure there are other cases where I have supplemented SI+ in the ovulatory phase – especially in younger women who are quite KD+ excess.