cassiopeia: November 3, 2020, 11:35pm
This is my most amazing dermatology case ever. I have been using Mazin-style herbs for derm patients for a while,
no acupuncture. With this new psoriasis patient, whose skin was so hot, red, and dry, I decided to also use
acupuncture along with high dosage herbs for blood heat, heat toxin, and wind. All herbs were vacuum decocted
from Kamwo.
check it out!
8/3/20, has been on herbs for 2 weeks; skin has begun to be less red than at first visit. First acupuncture session:
UB+. He reported his body cooling down while on the table.
8/28/20; clear improvement in thickness of lesions, less red. Skin still very dry. Continuing with herbs. 2nd UB+
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He missed an appointment in September, and I was expecting static progress b/c he didn t report in to get an herb
refill. But
10/29/20: WOW! Stopped taking herbs around early October b/c skin had basically cleared up. Now has some dry
areas, slightly itchy. SI+
I gave him powdered herbs to consolidate the treatment.
I m sure the herbs did a big chunk of the work, but the additional of Saam turned it into amazing progress. What
powerful medicine.
sweiz: November 4, 2020, 9:43am
Wow Fang, that s amazing! Good work! Yay herbs! Yay Saam!
joyblais: November 4, 2020, 6:44pm
Incredible!! Thank you for sharing this!!
Daniel: November 5, 2020, 11:36am
SO POWERFUL!
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more kind of interesting and somewhat fluffy . . . .
THIS IS SERIOUS MEDICINE
Adina_Kletzel: November 5, 2020, 9:57pm
Wow! That is amazing! I am curious to know how much Saam influenced. What do you think this case would have
looked like without including Saam? I know you can only speculate but I would love to know what you think.
cassiopeia: November 6, 2020, 1:37am
we don t have a control, but based on my other experiences with psoriasis I think it would have taken 3-6x as long
on herbs alone. Mazin gets fast results but my cases have never responded as quickly as his do.
Maynardacu: November 7, 2020, 12:46am
Thanks for sharing! Very impressive.
f.nunnariTCM: March 24, 2021, 11:08pm
Wow! Amazing response to treatment. Very inspiring!
George_Mandler: March 25, 2021, 12:34pm
Yes I have been impressed (blown away) by how well I have seen Sa am worked for the few skin conditions I ve
treated. I do not often treat skin so do not have a good sample size. What have you found @cassiopeia since that is
a daily patient presentation for you. Do you find Sa am is accelerating the healing process similar to your above
patient?
Two this month I ll share are a 22yo female with the worst eczema I have seen, but not as bad as Fang s patient
above Dry eczema head to toe about 80% on the yang channels. Skin very red, warm to touch. She feels hot, her
tongue is dark beet red. Pulse was thin and wiry, but not rapid. Jumping into a cold lake sounded wonderful to her.
I supplemented right BL+. After about 10 minutes she said I feel cooler and much less itchy . I could visibly see
her skin was not as red. (I find it amusing how I now take for granted the power of Sa am as I have gotten used to
these profound changes over the past 2.5 years).
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fuller she was at least 60% improved. She is quite SJ excess, I supplemented LR+. After the session she reported
that she had a dry patch on her left cheek that completely cleared up immediately after the session. (are you
kidding me!, holy cow – I said nothing about what the treatment can do).
I also recently had a 53 yo female with terrible eczema on the yang aspect of her hands, especially her left. She
could not make a fist and it was waking her up at night. She had some LU excess signs (well resourced, damp
inside/dry out). She also has TMJ pain and had surgery along the left ST channel. I supplemented right ST+. and
then double ST+. After the first session her jaw was looser, after the second session she her hand was not waking
her up. I also gave her something called Hydro Cell for dispersion thirst and a topical cream call Cell Food, in
addition she made healthier diet choices. I supplemented LR+/SI+/ST+, by the 6th session her hand looks normal,
my husband can t believe it . No way could I have helped that along so quickly without Sa am.
Patients like this make clinic fun and easy because they respond so well. The ones where I cannot get a change are
so challenging to find the blockage which lends to the “clinic is hard adage.
cassiopeia: March 25, 2021, 5:35pm
Sa am has definitely been a super useful tool for treating dermatology cases. BS (before Sa am), I only did herbal
consults for those folks! Now AS I can t imagine not giving them the immediate relief offered by 4 needles.
Having a framework taught by Mazin Al-Khafaji, for visually identifying the pathogenic factors on the skin, helps
my selection of Sa am treatments to be very concise and efficient.
here is a recent example:
3/12/21: 50yo male with atopic eczema ongoing/worsening for the last month, triggered by intense stress. Well-
demarcated (damp) very red (blood heat) lesions on legs; neck, ears, and around eyes (all damp heat locations).
Flaking around eyes (wind, often due to blood heat). gross uncomfortable skin sensation after itching (toxic heat)
Diagnosis: Atopic eczema due to blood heat, damp heat, toxic heat, and wind.
L UB+: patient immediately more comfortable, not itchy while on table.
Herbal granules 18g/d to address above factors.
Dermatology-M Hu zhang shui gao topical to cool the large red areas; Zi cao shui gao around eyes.29/01/2024, 11:47Holy moly! Amazing psoriasis response – Sa’am Clinical Insights – Qiological Community
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3/18/21:
Skin much improved: 50% less itch, gross discomfort 70% less (less damp heat/toxic heat). Ears/neck less flaky
(less heat generating wind); erythema still present but 60% less; lesions not as well-demarcated (less damp),
blanched with pressure (qi level heat); itch most bothersome esp night (blood heat). Some small bloody scabs
(blood heat).
He was MUCH less uncomfortable, but the most bothersome thing was still itching.
Diagnosis: atopic eczema due to blood heat, qi level heat, toxic heat, minor wind and toxin.
L SI+/R UB+
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Besides psoriasis and eczema, so far I ve also found Sa am to be clearly useful for acne, nummular eczema, and
perioral dermatitis. So cool to have a tool for clear adjustment of the five elements!
cassiopeia: March 25, 2021, 5:43pm
I encourage you to take photos of your severe skin patients, because it s so useful to have the visual notes. people
ALWAYS forget how bad something used to be, but they can t argue with pictures.
We as clinicians also forget when this guy came back on 3/18, my initial sense was that the erythema wasn t
much improved. but comparing the photos said otherwise!
I have also just discharged a quite severe atopic eczema case whom I ve seen since May 2020. She was initially an
herb-only case because my Sa am life began in July 2020. But she had poor compliance with herbs, plus GI
issues that made taking the heat-clearing herbs hard to tolerate. So as of August we ve been doing only
acupuncture 1-3x/month, plus a homeopathic remedy. Her whole-body eczema progressively cleared up. At the last
visit she said even her friends commented that she has shed her old skin and grew a healthy new layer. SAAM IS
SO AMAZING!!!
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lauramcgraw: March 28, 2021, 4:58pm
Such great cases!!! Thanks so much for sharing!